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]]> By: Anonymous http://www.songwritingtipsonline.com/blog/02/how-do-i-match-the-tune-with-what-i-want-to-talk-about/#comment-239 Anonymous Thu, 27 Mar 2008 05:18:00 +0000 http://songwritingtipsonline.com/blog/?p=118#comment-239 the way i do it is i just get this surge of inspiration...so anywhere i am i usually carry something i can write with, it sounds silly but even talking to someone they could say something and it triggers me to something else. I also find it WAY easier to write about personal experiences then making something up and i think the song itself means a lot more if it was from something personal...you can push inspiration outta you, you have to let it come out when its ready other wise itll most probably be crappy.lol the way i do it is i just get this surge of inspiration…so anywhere i am i usually carry something i can write with, it sounds silly but even talking to someone they could say something and it triggers me to something else. I also find it WAY easier to write about personal experiences then making something up and i think the song itself means a lot more if it was from something personal…you can push inspiration outta you, you have to let it come out when its ready other wise itll most probably be crappy.lol

]]> By: AndyBondi http://www.songwritingtipsonline.com/blog/02/how-do-i-match-the-tune-with-what-i-want-to-talk-about/#comment-226 AndyBondi Wed, 27 Feb 2008 00:52:00 +0000 http://songwritingtipsonline.com/blog/?p=118#comment-226 Matt, I usually write the music first and then the lyrics. <br/>To start writing the lyrics I usually sing along to the music. I sing anything that comes into my head. Shamir and Nadir talked about doing this in the songwriting recordings. <br/>I sing anything and keep changing the words usually still rhyming with what I sang before. Sometimes I change the rhyme on purpose if I have been singing the same rhyme for a while and feel I have come to a dead end. <br/>After a while and let me say this could take a few minutes, a few hours, a few days, a few weeks or even a few months (obviously I stop to eat, sleep, work, etc) I come up with a phrase that sounds good and interesting. This phrase ends up being the hook and triggers the subject of the song. When I have the subject for the song I then start mapping out my ideas for what each verse will be about.<br/><br/>I have found this method takes my lyrical ideas in directions I never thought of before.<br/>Also, I usually do a lot of this on my way to and from work on the train which turns into what I think of as wasted time into something worthwhile and enjoyable. Of course I don’t sing out loud and I just keep it in my head.<br/><br/>From some of the other comments in this blog I was wondering if you have an idea for lyrics first and then try to fit the ideas or even completed lyrics to the music. The method I described above isn't very good for fitting completed lyrics to music. If you find yourself in this situation I suggest you put those lyrics aside (you WILL use them later) and try approaching the song without any preconceived idea of what the lyrics will be about.<br/><br/>Anyway hope this helps.<br/><br/>Andrew Matt, I usually write the music first and then the lyrics.
To start writing the lyrics I usually sing along to the music. I sing anything that comes into my head. Shamir and Nadir talked about doing this in the songwriting recordings.
I sing anything and keep changing the words usually still rhyming with what I sang before. Sometimes I change the rhyme on purpose if I have been singing the same rhyme for a while and feel I have come to a dead end.
After a while and let me say this could take a few minutes, a few hours, a few days, a few weeks or even a few months (obviously I stop to eat, sleep, work, etc) I come up with a phrase that sounds good and interesting. This phrase ends up being the hook and triggers the subject of the song. When I have the subject for the song I then start mapping out my ideas for what each verse will be about.

I have found this method takes my lyrical ideas in directions I never thought of before.
Also, I usually do a lot of this on my way to and from work on the train which turns into what I think of as wasted time into something worthwhile and enjoyable. Of course I don’t sing out loud and I just keep it in my head.

From some of the other comments in this blog I was wondering if you have an idea for lyrics first and then try to fit the ideas or even completed lyrics to the music. The method I described above isn’t very good for fitting completed lyrics to music. If you find yourself in this situation I suggest you put those lyrics aside (you WILL use them later) and try approaching the song without any preconceived idea of what the lyrics will be about.

Anyway hope this helps.

Andrew

]]> By: Sara http://www.songwritingtipsonline.com/blog/02/how-do-i-match-the-tune-with-what-i-want-to-talk-about/#comment-225 Sara Mon, 25 Feb 2008 19:36:00 +0000 http://songwritingtipsonline.com/blog/?p=118#comment-225 I also encounter the problem of thinking about the melodies even when I'm jotting down the lyrics... it's a bit hard for me to push it out of my brain, but I find that when I concentrate solely on the lyrics, I come up with much more interesting imagery and/or themes in my songs.<br/><br/>Good article, Shamir. I also encounter the problem of thinking about the melodies even when I’m jotting down the lyrics… it’s a bit hard for me to push it out of my brain, but I find that when I concentrate solely on the lyrics, I come up with much more interesting imagery and/or themes in my songs.

Good article, Shamir.

]]> By: Nigel http://www.songwritingtipsonline.com/blog/02/how-do-i-match-the-tune-with-what-i-want-to-talk-about/#comment-224 Nigel Mon, 25 Feb 2008 03:32:00 +0000 http://songwritingtipsonline.com/blog/?p=118#comment-224 Most of my "best" songs (IMHO) start with one phrase that comes pre-packaged with a rhythm / groove; and possibly also a melody - or I just try different melodies to match the phrase. What I mean is, I will hear or read or think of a phrase whose words already have a natural rhythmic quality to them, so they automatically seem to suggest what the groove of the song will be, and then work from there. Often this phrase ends up being the hook of the song. Most of my “best” songs (IMHO) start with one phrase that comes pre-packaged with a rhythm / groove; and possibly also a melody - or I just try different melodies to match the phrase. What I mean is, I will hear or read or think of a phrase whose words already have a natural rhythmic quality to them, so they automatically seem to suggest what the groove of the song will be, and then work from there. Often this phrase ends up being the hook of the song.

]]> By: Anonymous http://www.songwritingtipsonline.com/blog/02/how-do-i-match-the-tune-with-what-i-want-to-talk-about/#comment-223 Anonymous Mon, 25 Feb 2008 02:18:00 +0000 http://songwritingtipsonline.com/blog/?p=118#comment-223 A good site is http://www.hotfrets.com/songanator.asp if you want to just have a tune to play hopefully that helped anyone? A good site is http://www.hotfrets.com/songanator.asp if you want to just have a tune to play hopefully that helped anyone?

]]> By: Ray Withrow http://www.songwritingtipsonline.com/blog/02/how-do-i-match-the-tune-with-what-i-want-to-talk-about/#comment-222 Ray Withrow Sun, 24 Feb 2008 21:32:00 +0000 http://songwritingtipsonline.com/blog/?p=118#comment-222 Matt, I share in the way of thinking that it should be the lyrics written 1st! WHY? OK, to make it simple, 1st, you have to have some basic idea of what you are going to say! Then, IF you are a musician, or even if you're not, the words will kinda sing themselves! Not great at writing? That;s cool - co-write with someone who is! I do BOTH, & would be glad to 'offer' my help! 50/50 is the usual way to split - 50% of something is a LOT better than 100% of NOTHING! IF I can help e-mail me at raywithrow@yahoo.com Ray, President of No Creek Music (ASCAP) Matt, I share in the way of thinking that it should be the lyrics written 1st! WHY? OK, to make it simple, 1st, you have to have some basic idea of what you are going to say! Then, IF you are a musician, or even if you’re not, the words will kinda sing themselves! Not great at writing? That;s cool - co-write with someone who is! I do BOTH, & would be glad to ‘offer’ my help! 50/50 is the usual way to split - 50% of something is a LOT better than 100% of NOTHING! IF I can help e-mail me at raywithrow@yahoo.com Ray, President of No Creek Music (ASCAP)

]]> By: Masked boy http://www.songwritingtipsonline.com/blog/02/how-do-i-match-the-tune-with-what-i-want-to-talk-about/#comment-221 Masked boy Sun, 24 Feb 2008 19:34:00 +0000 http://songwritingtipsonline.com/blog/?p=118#comment-221 Haha Shamir this blog helps the exact opposite of my problem :D If I write lyrics first, I can't find a melody, but if i do a melody first, i can then write lyrics. :D Haha Shamir this blog helps the exact opposite of my problem :D If I write lyrics first, I can’t find a melody, but if i do a melody first, i can then write lyrics. :D

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